Tier List

*Changelog*

  • 20140122 Tier List is updated for Season 4. (Lucian (Tier 3), Lissandra (Tier God), Yasuo (Tier God) not in due to bugs)
  • 20140205 Lucian, Lissandra, and Yasuo added to Tier List
  • 20140312 Added Vel'Koz
  • 20140321 Still in progress, but overall it is very well updated.

    God Tier

    Champions on this tier outclass all the champions under all the other tiers. These champions are not easily handled in lane, they have a lot of game changing potential. (These are generally the most picked/banned champions)

  • Yasuo

    fighter

  • Riven

    fighter

  • Darius

    fighter

  • Pantheon

    fighter

  • Jax

    fighter

  • Trundle

    fighter

  • Jarvan IV

    jungler

  • Xin Zhao

    jungler

  • Vi

    jungler

  • Wukong

    jungler

  • Kayle

    mage

  • Ziggs

    mage

  • Gragas

    mage

  • Annie

    mage

  • Karma

    mage

  • Syndra

    mage

  • Lissandra

    mage

  • Vayne

    marksman

  • Thresh

    support

  • First Tier

    Each of the champions play their roles strongly, these champions are taken most of the time under God Tier. They are very solid and do their roles very well. Great first pick or counter pick choice.

  • Jayce

    fighter

  • Garen

    fighter

  • Tryndamere

    fighter

  • Rengar

    fighter

  • Zed

    fighter

  • Gangplank

    fighter

  • Udyr

    jungler

  • Aatrox

    jungler

  • Nocturne

    jungler

  • Nunu

    jungler

  • Nasus

    jungler

  • Vel'Koz

    mage

  • Zyra

    mage

  • Kassadin

    mage

  • Ahri

    mage

  • Diana

    mage

  • Ryze

    mage

  • Brand

    mage

  • Singed

    mage

  • LeBlanc

    mage

  • Xerath

    mage

  • Orianna

    mage

  • Quinn

    marksman

  • Ezreal

    marksman

  • Lucian

    marksman

  • Leona

    support

  • Second Tier

    Just under First Tier, each of these champions have potential but lack a certain asset, nonetheless, not the best, but still good and worthwhile. You would see these champions not really banned that much.

  • Akali

    fighter

  • Malphite

    fighter

  • Master Yi

    fighter

  • Poppy

    fighter

  • Yorick

    fighter

  • Irelia

    fighter

  • Fiora

    fighter

  • Amumu

    jungler

  • Dr. Mundo

    jungler

  • Zac

    jungler

  • Rammus

    jungler

  • Rumble

    mage

  • Evelynn

    mage

  • Fizz

    mage

  • Heimerdinger

    mage

  • Nidalee

    mage

  • Cho'Gath

    mage

  • Vladimir

    mage

  • Janna

    mage

  • Kennen

    mage

  • Swain

    mage

  • Galio

    mage

  • Tristana

    marksman

  • Graves

    marksman

  • Miss Fortune

    marksman

  • Varus

    marksman

  • Caitlyn

    marksman

  • Jinx

    marksman

  • Urgot

    marksman

  • Morgana

    support

  • Soraka

    support

  • Nami

    support

  • Third Tier

    These champions are considered weak on Twisted Treelines and not recommended for picks. I personally would not choose these champions. There are just so much more stronger versatile champions out there.

  • Shen

    fighter

  • Warwick

    fighter

  • Talon

    fighter

  • Shaco

    jungler

  • Sejuani

    jungler

  • Maokai

    jungler

  • Volibear

    jungler

  • Hecarim

    jungler

  • Fiddlesticks

    jungler

  • Nautilus

    jungler

  • Malzahar

    mage

  • Karthus

    mage

  • Twisted Fate

    mage

  • Anivia

    mage

  • Mordekaiser

    mage

  • Veigar

    mage

  • Sion

    mage

  • Lux

    mage

  • Teemo

    mage

  • Katarina

    mage

  • Viktor

    mage

  • Sivir

    marksman

  • Kog'Maw

    marksman

  • Twitch

    marksman

  • Corki

    marksman

  • Draven

    marksman

  • Ashe

    marksman

  • Blitzcrank

    support

  • Zilean

    support

  • Sona

    support

  • Taric

    support

  • Alistar

    support

  • 702

    first.

    • Sam

      ^

  • 507 ^.^

    remove taric… for obvious reasons

    • 3v3GG

      What reason!?

  • 507

    riven deserves to be in god tier jungle

  • Raphael Rocha Ou Elfo

    you need some help with the guides? i am a plati player on x3 ranked and soloqueue, if you need just ask xD

    • 3v3GG

      Thanks for asking! I think I got it though. :D

  • Sum Vi3t Kid

    Not being very critical on the website because I really appreciate the information, but I’d just like to point out on the Lee Sin and Cass god tier icons, beneath they state to click on it to view a guide but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I was just bringing it to your attention because I know this is a relatively new website because Fumble told me about it and was just hoping to clear the confusion. But still thanks for the information and I hope for more guides to help my team climb. Lots of strong comps and information on how to build and coordinate said comps would be appreciated.

    • http://mendieleelin.com/ m3ndi3

      Thanks for the catch! We appreciate all your feedback ^_^

  • xzandrate

    couple missing champs it seems. No Trist or Donger, might be more, but I was just comparing what I have available to the tier list and noticed they weren’t there.

    • http://mendieleelin.com/ m3ndi3

      Added <3

  • batliff

    Bring the player not the champ.

  • 3v3GG

    Working on it!

    • Anonymous

      Put Malza at least in second Tier – He’s one of the best choices of beeing safe and bursty+surpressionin lane when playing with a jungler. Malza is definitely not last tier IMO.

      • 3v3GG

        Thinking about it. You’re right.

    • Anonymous

      Oh and also? Lissandra God Tier – huge CC super mobile and bursty – can also handle 1v2 quite good. Can shield herself and burst some dmg. Sometimes banned.

      • 3v3GG

        Yeah

  • god++

    Where is Sona?
    It’s funny how Viktor and Xerath are forgotten here as well =(
    Yet Sion is there O.o

    • Ohwhy

      That’s because sion is pretty strong in low numbers fights where it’s hard to bust down his shield and there’s not always enough CC to stop him from healing up his entire team with his ulti. If he can get snowballing he can be strong as either AD or AP on this map. In comparison everyone is pretty high mobility, so they can dodge out of Viktors slow and laser, as well as Xerath’s stuff. Sona falls off hard after the first six minutes or so, and while though champs can work, the other options are just better. With lux and kog, there’s not much reason for Xerath, and Zyra and Annie pretty much outdo whatever Viktor offers. The lists aren’t about what you can make work, it’s what is easiest and most popular to carry threes games with. All the champs that are god tier are spammed like nobodies business, and from there it’s champs that work as counterpicks, safe picks, or who just show up from time to time…You really don’t ever see viktor, sona, or xerath in ranked threes….You do see occasional sions, malzahars, and lux’s though.

    • 3v3GG

      haha! working on putting them in right now. I didn’t even realize, they are never touched on TT. :P Thanks for the word.

  • GP or DIE

    GP tier 1????? this guy must be nuts

    • 3v3GG

      Where would it go if you were to put GP in, just curious. haha

  • wacko

    Is lux really in the 3rd tier? I thought she should be tier 1 or so because of those low cd snares and bursts that melt through everyone since theres not much place to dodge them.

    • 3v3GG

      Problem with lux is she doesn’t do enough damage as an AP Mage and she doesn’t have any sort of disengage if she is caught with a gap closer. A lot of 3v3 champions that are played in TT are bruisers with gap closers. She has very low based HP aswell. :(

  • 3v3GG

    Up now! :)

  • bessy

    This god tier in general is a bit generous.

  • Derick

    What about Vayne? Where does she belong?

    • 3v3GG

      God Tier.

  • Kody

    I feel like sivir is a lot better now with the slight rework and shouldnt be considered the worst tier now.

  • Muranodo

    Is there any set itemization/masteries/runes for Shyvana jungle? I’ve been hearing she’s become quite OP; I can’t find any evidence for how she’s played. Meanwhile, I’ve been seeing Riven though in higher elo.

    • 3rd Dementor

      I play quite a bit of Shyvana. I tend to go 14/16 masteries (you want both magic and armor penetration in Offense, and Tenacity and autoattack damage reduction in defense). Runes are as follows: Lifesteal Quints (Shyvana’s core damage items have lifesteal – Ravenous Hydra and Blade of the Ruined King – so while these Quints are lackluster at first, they pay off once you get a Vampiric Scepter), Hybrid Penetration Reds (Shyvana’s damage is mixed), Flat Armor Yellows and Scaling MR Blues.

      The thing that makes Shyvana so strong in 3v3 is that the teamfights are usually extremely clustered – everyone’s on top of each other. Basically, perfect teamfights for Shyvana, because she can easily do her full AOE damage to the whole enemy team.

  • asdasd

    teemo to GOD tier kthxbye

  • Sansuno

    I think Sion needs to be put higher, considering he’s being played in top 10 on EU Challenger.

  • mooomooo

    what about talon????

  • Kasui

    Anivia is missing =(

  • DemoDean

    I think Fiddlesticks is missing

    • 3v3GG

      He;s in there.

      • DemoDean

        Why is Fiddlesticks tagged as a Jungler over a Mage pick? (I understand he does both but I look at him more for the magic damage and disruption he contributes rather than expedient jungling, he can also be played in lane against particular matchups)

  • 3v3GG

    Does nothing! haha! Thanks, putting him in now.

  • 3v3GG

    Debating on the lower 2 tiers atm.

  • 3v3GG

    How so?

  • 3v3GG

    I’ve never seen a Sion for ages, he’s mainly a mage over then an AD champion.

  • 3v3GG

    Problem with Anivia is she has no potential of escaping from gap closer champions.

  • 3v3GG

    Thanks! Alright LB honestly don’t burst a lot of AP’s bot lane, late game LB doesn’t really burst as strong because early game LB isn’t that amazing and almost every challenger team wants the early game. LB doesn’t bully lanes, she only gets strong as time builds up and starts to get a few kills for teims. Naut is literally a tank, nothing else, provides CC, but doesn’t even have a very strong base HP to begin with.

  • 3v3GG

    It may sound good, but she has no way of escaping from gap closing champions. AD carries take too long to build up anyways. Need 2-3 core items to be decently good.

  • 3v3GG

    The thing is Morgana has literally no potential to trade against another mage, she can push, she can clear waves pretty good. But when you are in teamfights all she provides is a puddle and shield. A lot of gap closers can easily disengage from her ultimate.

  • goodxguyxgreg

    Can you tell me why nocturne is tier 1 jungler? Also can you give me a tutorial on what to do with him in the jungle? (I have jungle experience, just idk what to do with nocturne. Oh and Nunu too thanks)

    • 3v3GG

      Noct does a decent amount of damage, but he lacks stats compare to other junglers in the highest tier, he clears decently, but his overall stats doesn’t compare to the higher tier junglers. Nocturne is pretty much like all jungler you clear and either invade or hide around brushes and wait for your teammates to be assisted from ganks.

      NUNU is way more different style of jungle, clear jungle and literally body block the jungler, try not to fight because you can’t, but he should not be able to kill you aswell.

      • goodxguyxgreg

        Thank you for the information!

  • 3v3GG

    It’s not reliable, his Q is very hard to hit.

  • 3v3GG

    <3 Much love,more to come.

  • LongLiveTeemo

    I love this so much :3
    Very good site and tier list!! keep up ze good work! <3

  • Ian Buchanan

    Why is Lucian all the way down there? More or less just curious but I feel like with a tri-force he has some pretty sold burst damage and his ult, while not the best, has done me a lot of good in treelines before

  • Ji

    Is Sam in charge of this tier list?

    • 3v3GG

      Yes :)

  • Nour Eldin Solaih

    1/2 the names in the third tier are bullshit.
    And yeah sure, lulu is god tier. Karma is too. and janna is in the first.
    I mean I know you can make mistakes, but seriously, this is plain stupidity to put these names up there and leave names like amumu/brand so low.

  • Delrin

    No Twitch?

  • 3v3GG

    Honestly, Teemo has no pressure in lane, has no team fight potential. Also his shrooms are very easy to kill with site vision items.

  • 3v3GG

    Nope. :P

  • 3v3GG

    Still debating, she has no escapes. Can’t really take down bruisers and her damage spike on levels aren’t that great.

  • 3v3GG

    No, more like just scrabbled around but there is no order, they are all very strong or very weak in each tiers. And update, sure, i’ll put that up.

  • ZodiarkSavior

    Curious as to why Anivia is rated so low.

  • 3v3GG

    No there is no order, every one of these have their own aspects to making them in their tiers.

  • 3v3GG

    Debating RIGHT NOW! :D

  • Krngreggo

    for some reason shyvana’s name is bolded

    • 3v3GG

      O interesting…

  • xXNyy27Xx

    sivir after re-work and why is brand teir 2 i think is AOE makes him a great team fighter

    • 3v3GG

      Yes, I’m debating on that aswell :)

  • Theuglyblob

    umm mordkaiser is god tier lol he is used with a support and can 3v1 if the game goes past 20 mins

  • Theuglyblob

    Also ryze is very strong with his aoe ult he can do alot of damage

  • 3v3GG

    Cho’gath is a hit or miss, if you don’t hit your Q you are pretty much done.

  • idontunderstand

    Vayne top tier wtf?
    I can understand that Ez has kiting potential, cait has insansely long range but why vayne? till mid-late I get shit on by every bruiser that have a gap closer or flash up

  • grundmoon

    Gargas is atleast a Tear 1

  • Theuglyblob

    Mage zilean god tier

  • Kyle Bauer

    Why isn’t eve on the jungle tier list :((

  • 3v3GG

    AD sion is pretty trolly, doesn’t have much of a threat, exhaust and kite = a dead AD sion

  • 3v3GG

    Thanks! Working on it now!

  • 3v3GG

    She doesn’t have a lot of pressure 1-3 level against other bruiser junglers, she’ll get destroyed in a scrimmage between them.

  • 3v3GG

    Twisted Fate just has no way of escaping when getting ganked except when he flashes that is one of the set backs.

  • Roxai

    Viktor should be second tier. :3

    • 3v3GG

      I don’t think VIktor is t2! But I’ll look more into it haha.

  • 3v3GG

    Morgana is a support – mage.

  • Steel Curse

    Great List and loving the site, keep in rolling

    • 3v3GG

      <3 Trying my best.

  • Keeganator12

    There’s no twitch (if that matters) but also no talon

    • 3v3GG

      Yes thanks for letting me know :)

      • Keeganator12

        Np, also remember to use your mlg iphone headphones when you stream :)

        • 3v3GG

          haha all i got is them ipod headphones :(

  • John

    Zilean God tier plox

    • 3v3GG

      Shh… Don’t let the secret come out :3 Like Sion

  • 3v3GG

    Honestly Fiora has literally no good match ups, her damage output is only good if she can get a lead but she literally has no CC, little amount of dmg, so I’m not sure what she can possibly do with that.

  • 3v3GG

    She’s honestly not that strong, her early game isn’t much, even trying to split push in 3s is way too difficult. Her damage out put literally isn’t even strong unless she gets level 6, but early game is everything.

  • 3v3GG

    Very debatable I’ll look more into it.

  • Hasani

    WHy is kata rated so low? In 3v3′s there arent as many champs that can stop her from using a perfect ult, as there are in 5v5′s?

    • 3v3GG

      Problem with katarina is she doesn’t have a strong early game, a decent mid game. She gets constantly bullied out of lane so easily. And has no sort of CC to help team when there is a gank or roam into the jungle. Most champions that need to channel ultimates aren’t that amazing in TT

  • 3v3GG

    Still debating you are absolutely right on those parts. :)

  • 3v3GG

    Working on it atm. But a Syndra guide should be up coming soon. :)

  • 3v3GG

    Eh… Pony doesn’t have a very strong early game, a decent mid game if he has items.

  • 3v3GG

    She is always going to be a viable strong choice, but maybe drop down to t1 you’re right…. mhm…

  • 3v3GG

    Yeah, supports work if you have the knowledge of doing it, but honestly, I’m not sure, a lot of EU players do it though in challenger tier, gotta be something :D

  • Empolypiplup

    New Olaf?

  • ScHoolboyQisBeast

    I feel like pantheon really deserves higher tier, I find him to be the best top laner/fighter in the lane atm. You can’t easily win vs a panth due to the block passive and q spam (his ulti is nothing to disregard either when it comes to teamfights as it can both zone and/or do damage whilst giving him and good assassinate opportunity)

    • 3v3GG

      Very true, I’ll look more into it, I’ve noticed a lot of teams are using it and doing very well with it. Maybe one higher tier. :)

  • 3v3GG

    No problem :)

  • Roxai

    What gives Galio his place in the 2nd tier, i really like him personally, what’s your opinion about him?

    • 3v3GG

      Early game is a huge factor in 3s, galio uses way too much mana for way too little damage. His damage outcome is very low for some reason. His ultimate is incrediblely strong, but his overall kit isn’t that strong, I really hoped he would’ve been a hidden op, but I need more time to check it out.

  • Conor

    Ryze should defiantly be at least Tier 1. He is very strong and can take out a whole team later in the game.

  • The Blue Priest

    You should revisit taric. This patch really effected him.

    • 3v3GG

      Yeah! I’m looking through it, he is actually a very strong champion o-o

  • Norsewizard

    no yorick?

    • 3v3GG

      2nd tier

  • 3v3GG

    Very soon, I really want to wait for season 4 to really kick it before updating.

  • 3v3GG

    Morgana doesn’t have the very best duo and her level 2 isn’t that amazing.

  • 3v3GG

    Mundo. mhm… debating still.

  • 3v3GG

    Through my experience :) And what I think which champion can do more and be more potent than the others.

    • Thetracker3

      So, I’m supposed to trust one man’s “experience” in the matters of what champions are better than what other champions? Yeah, Rammus is one of the best jungler’s I’ve seen on TT, much better than Udyr, that’s for sure.

      • 3v3GG

        Like I’ve said multiply times to many others. This is based off what I know and experienced in TT. :) You don’t have to agree or go along with any of it. And Rammus isn’t one of the best junglers in TT. Literally has the worse clear time, worse level 2 (except amumu or naut), and pretty much doesn’t do much. :)

  • Nipul

    Hey, I contacted you a few days ago about writing a jungle guide for lee sin and for other champs aswell, I’d like to know if you received it and if I could get some positive feedback :P Thanks :)

  • Anderson Silva

    in which tier yasuo will be prob? can you tell us now or need to stud him?

    • 3v3GG

      Need to study him alittle more. Or actually I haven’t even tried him yet. Going to try it now. :D

  • 3v3GG

    Tier 1

  • 3v3GG

    Debatable, he takes way too much to build up even tho he has very good base stats.

  • 3v3GG

    Draven isn’t that amazing. After the nerfs on the bleed.

  • 3v3GG

    So far I’m not sure, I don’t like it, but need more time, look what happened with zed haha give it some time and it’s really strong without ppl knowing!

  • 3v3GG

    I’m still debating, mundo is an amazing champion atm with the runes and masteries.

  • TeemoLover69

    Teemo 3v3 god tier plz

    • 3v3GG

      Nope!

  • reditst

    Do you update this frequently?

    • 3v3GG

      Trying my best to.

  • imi18

    how do you feel about eve jungle in 3v3?

    • 3v3GG

      Personally don’t like it.

  • 3v3GG

    Working on it :)

  • Michael Stramel

    The Change log listed on the tier list should show Updates to the tier list not notes about what guides were updated recently imo.

  • Chocolatier

    Will this ever be updated?

    • 3v3GG

      yes very soon actually

  • JunkRamen

    Thanks for the tier list – interesting to see how different yours is compared to some of the EU players (Yasloom, Arcane Rebirth) though they play with a lot more duo lanes.

    It’s a great website, but content seems to be a little slow. My suggestion is to make it more clear what changes you make to the champion placements on the list, and a brief description on why. You don’t need to write a description on every single champion (we know why Sona is low tier) but some details here and there would be nice on the champion placements that may surprise people, like Gangplank.

  • 3v3GG

    It’s in tier 2.

  • Vasarema

    Any idea of yasuo’s tier ?

    • 3v3GG

      Maybe God tier…. Maybe

  • Asdrubale

    Lissandra is missing

    • 3v3GG

      Yeah it is bugged atm.

  • 3v3GG

    Just updated it.

  • 3v3GG

    I really just updated yesterday :)

  • Michael Stramel

    Would you mind putting a section under the tiers for what all changed and what the thoughts were behind the move? Thanks for all your work!

  • Oromisz

    since when the tier list is not updated?

    • 3v3GG

      It’s updated already.

  • rongo

    Fiora second and third tier.

  • 3v3GG

    Thanks, totally forgot!

  • MindSkills

    Could you please explain why Kata is tier 3?
    Her ult deals damage to 3 people so she doesnt have to worry about not hitting the right targets as she would in SR.

  • Clay Hirrill

    Will we begetting a Season 4 Updated List?

    • 3v3GG

      It is updated, just some champions are not showing, going to be fixing that really soon.

      • Clay Hirrill

        Awesome. It just seemed like the list was the same as season 3. Great work here.

  • 3v3GG

    Her early game isn’t as amazing as it was before, but she does still oppose a significant threat and does HUGE amounts of damage mid/late game.

  • 3v3GG

    She is still really good.

  • 3v3GG

    Yet he has no potential to push towers and etc.because he has no significant wave clear.

  • 3v3GG

    Going to be updated into the list soon but it’s glitched atm.

  • 3v3GG

    She doesn’t really need just the E to be a huge impact, her Q and W alone can easily be enough.

  • 3v3GG

    She is more of a support/mage.

  • Clay Hirrill

    How do you feel about building jungle items and/or multiple dorans for a jungler?

  • Patricia Rodriguez Lluch

    Where is lissandra? :(

    • Michael Alexander Hinsching

      Liss is God Tier but due a problem or bug this guys can get her posted. If u read the *changelog thing u ll see.

      • Patricia Rodriguez Lluch

        Ohh good, thanks!

  • Clay Hirrill

    I was just asking, i see a lot of people going double dorans instead of jungle items sometimes into 3 dorans.

    • xProph3t

      “… building jungle items [b]and/or[/b] multiple dorans …”
      If you wanted to know if it is “viable” to buy dorans instead of spirit items, then you should have said so :)
      I have also seen 2/3 dorans instead of jungle item just to get to the first item quickly, so if your question is if it is viable to replace jungle item with dorans, then it certainly is, but it is circumstantial. What you have to understand is what you sacrifice/gain when replacing. If you were to play, eg. lee sin, you might want to go 2 dorans -> hydra, or if your opponents are maybe jayce, shyvana, olaf, rushing a randuin’s instead of hydra might be good. It depends on your preferred playstyle how you react to your opponents. TBH though, you can build jungle item + 2 dorans if you want, dorans are extremely efficient and most jungle items get their gold value back in a long game. (emphasis on long, golem is gold efficient after around 15 mins of keeping the stacks below 80, so basicly 1.5 stack/sec = 2 camps/2 mins in ~15 mins)

      Did this shed some light on your problem? (feel free to ask more. (assuming you dont dislike my comment, or think it is nonsense,) I love theory-crafting)

  • Type Mercury

    Really wondering on that Skarner placement? You’ve tried every champ in this tier list right? Why is Skarner even listed as a fighter and not a jungler? Have you taken another look at him after the Spirit Stone buff? Really interested in this?

  • Daktush

    I know sivir used to be higher back before her changes. With a support meta her lane shoving and mobility were highly valued when invading the enemy jungle

  • Fox

    Where would bruiser Nidalee be? Personally I liked playing her last season (in diamond). I personally think she is stronger AD/bruiser than ap tho, but that might just be me ^^

  • 3v3GG

    Diana is probably t2-t3 not that amazing. jax maybe t1 just because his late game is great, but you have to really get a strong start.

  • 3v3GG

    Not in 3s,

  • Talal

    You forgot Lucian

  • rongo

    Lissandra and lucian were not added

  • Dude

    where is lissandra?

  • Currykanzler

    Here is no Lissandra :(

  • Makcim

    There should be a date with the latest update!

  • shadownova420

    Love the website it has so much potential.
    IMO the only thing holding you back is lack of regular/new content.
    I check in here 2-3 times a week and am always excited to see something new posted.

    Unfortunately I know content production is easier said then done, but even just doing 1 champion guide per week or something like that would go a long way to legitimizing your site as the go to place for Twisted Treeline.

    • 3v3GG

      True, I’ll be working on that soon.

  • Dynanti

    Dear god new Xerath is a beast on 3v3. Please consider him for at least Tier 1.

    • 3v3GG

      I am considering right now.

    • Jeffazaurus

      Really? i’ve been against 3 or 4 xeraths now and they just got absolutely wrecked and had no game presence, maybe they were just not that good with the new xerath.

  • Anonymous

    WW and Voli First Tier pls

    • 3v3GG

      They arent even that good…

  • Kaden

    What about reworked xerath?

    • 3v3GG

      It’s still not the best. >_>

  • 3v3GG

    Pantheon > most champions top lane.

    Wukong doesn’t scrim as strong as you think he does.

  • 3v3GG

    Lack early game presence, but I’ve been playing her and I might change my mind.

  • 3v3GG

    She still isn’t that amazing. Many other junglers are better.

  • 3v3GG

    Those champions don’t even have a good laning phase lol. Shaco is useless, Mao is weak in lane, and Voli does ok, but still even that they are bad.

    Actually Hecarim jungle isn’t even that shabby.

  • 3v3GG

    Press ignite on Swain, his early game is trash.

  • Electz

    Wukong jungle ???

  • Electz

    Whats with the Wukong jungle ???

  • 3v3GG

    Haha! He is :P

    • Zachary Wehe

      I’d need more than just a “he is”. I main Ryze on Twisted Treeline and play it more than I do summoners rift.

      One of the drawbacks of Ryze is he had a low mana pool and could be bullied until you get mana items. With the extra gold in twisted treeline you can purchase a tear right off the bat. On top of this he is the perfect balance between bulk and damage for a map so riddled with bruisers.

      Because Twisted Treeline has greater emphasis on combat than farming, and less time between fights his ult also excels, being one of the shortest in the game to go off cooldown. His damage doesn’t suffer either, with certain items being omitted from this map, none of which effect ryze, he has an advantage over other APC in that he can dish the damage but he can also take it. Spell vamp is something that got hit really hard lately but RYZE ult wasn’t effected, making him one of the most ideal AP’s for sustain.

      • 3v3GG

        His damage does suffer a lot because he has no early game presence, his Q and W doesn’t do as much as you think it does. Unless you have full stack tears at level 1-3 you aren’t going to dish out more damage then most APs.

        http://www.twitch.tv/sam/b/506483462

        watch the first segment and see why Ryze isn’t very effective.

  • 3v3GG

    He’s alright, not the best. Debating still.

  • 3v3GG

    “hard counter” not really. He builds tank and does no damage now. Riot nerfed his “Fake Sheen Proc” a few patches back because of how strong he is. Other than that it’s not amazing. His stun isn’t spammable actually. You can probably use 2 stuns every 5-10 seconds.

  • 3v3GG

    Right there O_O

  • 3v3GG

    That just sounds great! But let’s think about how much damage maokai does. Nothing, Zero. He doesn’t have the damage output of most junglers do. Thats why in the LCS they don’t even care about him . It’s not about how much CC/tank you can put out, it’s about damaging/CC.

  • 3v3GG

    Debatable. Her early game is really bad just like Maokai. She doesn’t provide damage. Her late game with 6 stack items, sure, it does a good amount of damage. But there is no way you are going to get that chance to get 6 items.

    • bananas

      Do you think so? I think her early damage is ok with hybrid pen marks, definitely more than maokai. Her aoe damage spikes as soon as she has sorcs and haunting guise. Her ult makes it almost impossible for the enemy team to dive and can make sieging hard as well (therefore stalling the game if things dont go too well). Thats just my opinion tho

  • xProph3t

    Had great success as gragas jungle, I think he is really strong b/c ad steroid early, and then he scales really well.

  • spikerdude

    Vi is missing.

  • Project

    wheres vi? that champ is busted

  • Bruce Rundberg

    No Vi….. the fuck?

    • 3v3GG

      O thanks! Something glitched and couldn’t see it.

  • JonouchiChan

    Volibear needs to be shot up to tier 1, at least. His kit is way too strong in this meta, and if he builds straight tank with an emphasis on Health he’s basically invincible.

  • 3v3GG

    Lol.

  • Random Bastard

    I agree with most of this, but Morgana Second Tier? She is at least First, IMO even God Tier. Her spellshield can win the game on it’s own, while she dishes out insane dps with AOE abilities + 2 stuns. On top of this she synergizes well with most of the God Tier fighters.

    • 3v3GG

      True still debating,the problem with Morgana is her lack of consistent damage or burst. She either fires a Q, if miss, dire consequences. She kind of reminds me of Ahri, A lot of skill shots involved and if you miss the core stun you are in a huge problem.

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